[Updated 2023.6] According to DOC, there is now an AMEX Hilton application link that can avoid the pop-up. Some people got the pop-up when applying through other links, but were able to apply normally with no pop-up using this promo link. A reminder, though: even without the pop-up, it is still possible not to receive the bonus (personally, I feel the odds are good that you will get it). You can decide for yourself whether to take the risk. If anyone applies and gets the bonus / gets the pop-up / does not get the bonus, feel free to report your dp.
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What Is the AMEX Pop-Up?
At the last step of completing your AMEX credit card application, when you click Submit, AMEX will first automatically determine whether you are eligible for the welcome bonus. If you are not eligible, you will see the infamous pop-up. This small pop-up window is related to whether the credit card you are applying for this time—including charge cards—will earn a welcome bonus.
There are two versions of the pop-up, and both tell you that you will not receive the welcome bonus this time:
- You have or previously had this card (and received the welcome bonus): This corresponds to the once-per-lifetime welcome bonus rule for this AMEX credit card. If AMEX detects that you previously received the welcome bonus on this card or currently hold this card, it will notify you that this application is not eligible for the welcome bonus.
xxx, because yoou have or have had xxx card, you are not eligible to receive the welcome offer
- AMEX thinks you should not receive a welcome bonus: This part is more tricky. AMEX uses its own algorithm to decide whether you are a desirable customer and whether you are worth giving this welcome bonus to. For example, it may look at how often you open or close cards with AMEX. If you always close a card after earning the welcome bonus, AMEX may stop giving you welcome bonuses on other cards in the future.
based on your history with credit card balance transfers, American Express welcome offers, intro APR, or number of card you have opened and closed, you are not eligible to receive the welcome offer
Why Does the Pop-Up Get Triggered?
Triggering the Once-Per-Lifetime Restriction
First, everyone should know that AMEX's welcome bonus terms clearly state that you can only receive it once in a lifetime, aside from the occasional leaked links we find that bypass the lifetime language. So if one day I have opened too many cards and forget whether I applied before, and I apply again, wouldn't that mean I could spend enough to meet the minimum spending requirement for the bonus but still not receive it—in other words, get burned instead? And from the customer's perspective, this is a poor experience, since very few people carefully read the terms while applying.
So AMEX can use the pop-up to warn you in advance. That way, when applying, customers know that they really are ineligible this time because they already received the welcome bonus before. Then they can comfortably cancel the application, or continue anyway if they still want the card itself.
A Poor Relationship With AMEX
Second, attentive readers have probably noticed this line on the application page:
Welcome offer not available to applicants who have or have had this Card. We may also consider the number of American Express Cards you have opened and closed as well as other factors in making a decision on your welcome offer eligibility.
What does that mean? It means AMEX can decide whether to give you the welcome bonus on this credit card based on whether you have held the card before and on the quality of your overall relationship with AMEX.
So how does AMEX define whether an applicant has a good or bad relationship with them? We can see some clues from the language in the pop-up:
- your history with credit card balance transfers (+-): I do not fully understand this one either. AMEX may think balance transfers onto an AMEX card help AMEX collect interest, which could be a positive factor. So if you do this often, AMEX may see you as a good customer. Of course, the opposite may also be true: AMEX may think frequent balance transfers are effectively using debt to pay debt, which would make you a higher-risk customer.
- American Express welcome offers (-): This refers to welcome bonuses. If you have already received welcome bonuses on many AMEX cards, AMEX may think you are no longer a customer they need to keep developing. In other words, even without such a generous welcome bonus, you might still apply. So this is probably a negative factor.
- intro APR (-): APR promotions are also part of introductory offers, such as 0 APR for purchases for 12 months after opening the card. If you get a lot of these offers and keep carrying a balance while paying only the minimum, the bank will not earn interest.
- number of card you have opened and closed (-): For people who aggressively pursue credit card bonuses, this point is especially painful. We like to apply whenever we see an all-time-high welcome bonus, put the required spending on the card, then toss it in a drawer and move on to the next target. When the annual fee comes due in the second year, we close the card. From AMEX's perspective, opening a lot of cards and closing a lot of cards is a major negative factor.
One thing to note is that AMEX definitely has data on the credit cards you opened with them, and the number of accounts opened and closed can also be found on your credit report. AMEX may periodically soft pull your credit report and recalculate your "friendliness score" to decide whether to show you the pop-up. In addition, based on readers' testing, putting a certain amount of spend on your AMEX cards may also increase this "friendliness."
What Should You Do After Seeing the Pop-Up?
AMEX's pop-up mechanism lets us know whether we can receive the welcome bonus. One nice thing is that AMEX does not immediately use your information to hard pull your credit report and then decide whether to approve you. Instead, before the hard pull, it shows a pop-up telling you whether this application is eligible for the welcome bonus, and then gives you the choice to continue the application (which will leave an HP) or cancel it (which will have no impact at all on your credit report).
So in essence, AMEX's pop-up mechanism actually helps applicants. Its existence gives us the right to know whether we can get the welcome bonus before deciding whether to proceed.
Continue the Application
If you are truly applying for this card not for the welcome bonus, you can absolutely continue. For example, maybe you closed your AMEX Gold before it was revamped, and now you want to hold it again to earn 4x at supermarkets, so you are applying again. Or with a card like the AMEX Platinum, which comes with a lot of credits and benefits, you might not care that there is no welcome bonus this time because the credits alone are enough.
Cancel the Application
Because AMEX has not hard pulled you yet, there is no impact on your credit report or credit score. However, AMEX definitely keeps a record of your application activity, and it is still unclear what the consequences might be if you keep probing AMEX's limits for several months in a row. At the link below, you can check your AMEX credit card application history. I got the pop-up for several months in a row myself—it was exhausting.
How to avoid the pop-up
Getting around the once-per-lifetime rule
In this article, we’ve already covered quite a few ways to get around the once-per-lifetime welcome bonus restriction, so we won’t repeat them here.
It’s also worth mentioning that there has recently been an AMEX Business Platinum phone offer that can be converted into an offer email. It likewise does not have a once-per-lifetime restriction, so it should have no problem bypassing the pop-up.
Improve your standing with AMEX
So if you’re in the second situation—meaning you have never received the welcome bonus on this card before, and you’re only getting the pop-up because your “relationship” with AMEX isn’t good—what should you do? The following methods are not official, but they should help to some extent.
- Spend more on the AMEX cards you already have, and increase your total card spend so AMEX feels it can “make money” from you: One DP that left a strong impression on me involved a classmate of mine. He had been focusing on spending on Chase credit cards and neglecting AMEX, which caused him to get the pop-up when he first applied for an AMEX Hilton card. Fortunately, it was back-to-school season and he needed to pay tuition, so he used an AMEX card to pay $1W of tuition to his school through the Plastiq platform. When he applied again the next month, he was approved right away. (For more on Plastiq, you can read this article on our 101 site.)
- Try not to open new cards or close old cards in the near term: Especially AMEX cards—if possible, don’t close them. Product changing to a no-annual-fee version is also fine.
- Try applying through a different channel: If you got the pop-up using a refer link, try the official website link instead, or apply by phone. Since AMEX may offer a different welcome bonus through other channels, and it also does not need to pay a referral bonus, it may let you through.
If you don’t get the pop-up, will you definitely receive the welcome bonus?
Actually, the AMEX pop-up is only a preliminary determination. If you later fail to meet the welcome bonus requirements properly, and then close the card recklessly, it is still possible that you won’t receive the welcome bonus.
Welcome offer not available to applicants who have or have had this Card. We may also consider the number of American Express Cards you have opened and closed as well as other factors in making a decision on your welcome offer eligibility.
For more details, see the article below.
My personal experience getting past the pop-up
Recently, quite a few AMEX cards have had strong welcome bonus offers. Frustratingly, many readers often get hit with the AMEX pop-up and are denied the welcome bonus. Here I’d like to share a little DP from my own experience getting around the pop-up, and everyone is welcome to share their own situations as well.
- In April, I saw that the AMEX Platinum had wireless and streaming credits, so I wanted to try for a Schwab version. I had barely applied for any cards over the past two years and was already out of 524. There was basically very little spending on my AMEX cards—just a few scattered AMEX Offer purchases and annual fees. I also hadn’t closed any AMEX cards within the past two years.
- Starting in April, I tried about once a month. Each time I got the pop-up saying, “Based on your history and card opening/closing activity, we will not give you the welcome bonus,” so I canceled the application. Of course, canceling the application also did not result in an HP.
- After getting the pop-up several times, I started putting some spend on my Hilton, Delta, and Gold cards, generally in the several-hundred to over-one-thousand range, and then paid them off after the statements generated. During this time, I also paid a few annual fees.
- However, I applied twice in July and still got the pop-up. After that, I stopped putting additional spend on them.
- When I applied again in September, there was no pop-up and I was instantly approved.
To summarize:
- If you’re not getting the pop-up because of card opening/closing behavior, then there’s a very good chance it’s because there has been too little spending on your cards. Try to put some spend on each card, especially AMEX’s own charge cards.
- After you spend and pay the balance, the effect may not be immediate. It may take about 2 months to work, so don’t rush.
Summary
AMEX’s pop-up system is essentially there to help applicants. Its existence gives us card applicants advance notice about whether we will be eligible for the welcome bonus. But if you’re in the second situation—where you have never received the welcome bonus on this card before, and you’re only being denied because your “relationship” with AMEX isn’t good—then what you need to do is simple: use your cards more and raise your total spending!